Ditto on the patch editor / hardware slot “alignment” issues…
The biggest problem I have with the unit is stability. It randomly locks up in random ways. Sometimes theres audio but no panel control, sometimes no audio and even stuck notes. Power off/on fixes it but I have to restart my DAW software every time to get the USB port back, which is really annoying. I limit its use to recording tracks only because of this and compose with other bass synths. I understand you guys cut back with it to make it more affordable but I’m borderline happy with it. It has the exact Moog sound I wanted which is great but using it is not a good experience if you cant trust it and rely on it.
Also, the editor preset system is bloody horrible, IMO. Confusing as to whats where in synth memory/editor/hard drive when trying to save or organize. Lost a few sounds just trying to save them. I dont bother anymore. Better preset catagory system would be nice. I manually created new folders myself to get them into the editor.
Please implement a way to permanently turn OFF program change and program control.
(Why would I want to control analog parameters with MIDI digital encoders when I’ve got the pots right there?)
If anybody would like to try a version 2.0.1 update, I have one here…
http://www.moogconnect.net/minitaur/Minitaur_firmware_v2_0_1.syx
Follow the same instructions from the v2.0.0 update but use this new sysex file.
What’s new:
- control voltages update faster, for lower noise
- adjusting either of the LFO AMT knobs overrides the internal “mod wheel” value, so LFO should not get stuck off anymore
that’s all so far. I am compiling a list of all known bugs and requested new features, for the larger update process to come…
Is it possible that the locking up issue has anything to do with the USB midi port? Does anyone have this problem while using the standard slower midi port?
BTW, I’d like to at least thank team Moog for making the effort to do these updates at all. Many companies wouldnt.
Hello Amos, and thanks for taking into account all those user feedbacks!
I am a new owner, and so far my only request would be: enable the usage of a USB keyboard. So far (I am using an OSX 10.6 MacBook Pro), I cannot use my Korg MicroKey 37 USB controller to play the Minitaur, and using a MIDI DIN keyboard instead would defeat the purpose of my very compact set-up.
I have seen a post proposing the usage of MIDI-OX and LoopBe additional tools, but so far they do not exist for Mac, and I find that a bit of a complex solution.
(By the way: if you have any suggestions I will be glad to test! 
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Cheers!
V
editor:
- a user sounds bank map
hardware:
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knob shortcut for saving edited preset (maybye only possible with editor open and present: click combination sending panel setting to user sounds0 map)
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faking another octave up ..
idea:
- lfo mod to osc mix: a mod destination for lfo-ing between vco 1 and. i realize u set the volume for osc nd 2 withseperate pots, but maybye a 110/0:50/50:0/100 mix is possible
bugs:
- usb is very buggy: when running the usb port it freezing easily (mac 10.8.3 & 10.6.
- panel setting saving in editor and then double clicking for loading gives no sound until i pcik one of the stock sounds from the preset panels.
BUGS:
Recently, mine Minitaur has totally frozen in the middle of live set on stage.
Setup:
PC Notebook with Ableton Live 9.0.1 (midi clock master) → MOTU Ultralite Hybrid mk3 (Unit A) MIDI OUT → MOTU Ultralite Hybrid mk3 (Unit B) MIDI IN - > MacBook pro with Ableton Live 9.0.1 (midi clock slave) → USB - > Minitaur rev 2.
I think it was somehow related to USB interface and/or Midi clock and tempo changes which we made in “master” Ableton Live.
Also MT hangs sometimes in my home studio in different situations, I think it is related to a number of incoming midi messages and/or maybe USB issues, as noted by previous users.
Don’t know how to fix it.
Will try 2.0.1 shortly.
FEATURE REQ:
- Editor is quite goor for quick edits and “under the panel” settings, but almost unusable for managing presets
- And yes, one more available octave UP would be good
+1
I controll all important under-the-hood settings via CC from a hardware sequencer. Program change via midi is working too.
Would be so great to save the current settings to the current preset without the editor.
Saving a minitaur preset is atm the only reason why I have to turn on my laptop while creating tracks…
A custom destination for CV mapping would be really useful if you are using the Minitaur as a CV to MIDI converter.
Currently, Local Off does not affect the CV inputs. So when you use the synth as a MIDI controller, CVs still change an internal parameter…
Hi like minded,
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while using the USB-PORT - I have a high NOISE in the audiosignal path? - This should not be the case.
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while using via MIDIKEYBOARD I got allways notlcks while changing the keyboards presets - I have to RESTART allways the Minitaur. ?
-The shortcut for the liveuse /(Gluide+VCO1+2) does not open up all buttons on the MT (mostly DECAY/RELEASE) ?? You can not use this button -
only a restart helps! ;(
ps: I am a 2 weeks experienced user 
you can cover pin 4 (ground) on one end of the USB cable you’re using for the Minitaur and it will avoid this problem.
see this post for more details: http://forum.moogmusic.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=15694&p=114307#p114167
this is just one of many ways to resolve a ground-loop problem; they are common in computer music setups with multiple interconnected devices.
I recommend you should see if your MIDI Keyboard has an option to turn off sending MIDI Program Change when you change the keyboard’s presets. If you want only the keyboard preset to change, and no change on the Minitaur, then you want not to send program change via MIDI. I will also add the option in Minitaur to ignore MIDI program change.
I think the DECAY/RELEASE is probably working “as intended” but it’s very possible that the implementation is confusing.
If any experienced Minitaur users have a suggestion for how the DECAY/RELEASE control could be better implemented, I’m happy to consider changing it.
Cheers,
Amos
In logic using the lfo rate on the minitaur will put the selected audio channel on solo.
This LFO rate is very important to me, hope you can fix it in next firmware update
thanks!
I am happy with the way it works. It would be best to simply toggle without holding the RELEASE button down, but the way it is now, it finally works. If you can sort that “other thing” out that I suggested in the e-mails, I would be over the moon!
I use a the Minitaur with an AKAI MPC sequencer. Program Change works quite well - I make presets via USB and then recall them from the MPC. I wish I could create presets on the fly with out a computer, but understand that the hardware is limited and that this might just be impossible.
The only MAJOR issue I run into is that when presets are recalled, the front panel controls are not fully responsive. The LFO section just flat out doesn’t work. I have to switch to Preset 1, or the “Init” preset to then regain LFO functionality. Sometimes it seems like the LFO section syncs to MTC even though I have that functionality turned off in the preset editor. When I do use MIDI Sync LFO, the multiplier seems to change randomly after dumping the preset to the Synth. Yes, the LFO section and presets don’t behave too well when the mTaur is used with an external sequencer sending MTC. Maybe I’ll turn off the MTC on the AKAI and see what happens. It would be gorgeous to have the LFO truly synced to my sequencer though…wahwahwah bass for days…
I also have problems with preset names getting corrupted after moving them to the synth and then back again.
The release functionality of Ver.2 is nice, you get full ADSR control, but perhaps it should be toggled so that with the release button lit up, the middle knob of the envelope section should control Release time like in Ver.1 - and then in order to modify Decay, you HOLD down the Release button. This way it’s easy to set the ADS, then turn the release mode on and easily set the release, with the ability to still control Decay if you wish. Make sense? I don’t like having to hold down the button to adjust any parameter tbh, but I appreciate the added functionality.
I can’t promise “bug-free” but I fixed some T3 bugs today… I’ll have a Taurus 3 update later this week, too.
Thx Amos,
already helpfull!!
Glad I didn´t kick the MT
Best, Peter
I think the DECAY/RELEASE is probably working “as intended” but it’s very possible that the implementation is confusing.
If any experienced Minitaur users have a suggestion for how the DECAY/RELEASE control could be better implemented, I’m happy to consider changing it.
What you have here is a doubled action-button and double functionality - I find that confusing (and i never know in what method i am in!) - i would just recommend to get rid of the first method and take it as labeled on the box.
It would make live easyer (at least 4 me ) (If you consider that i expected to get a “hands on” synth!)
KEEP IN MIND, THAT NOT ALL COSTUMERS WANT ALWAYS NEW AND MORE FEATURES! REDUCE TO THE essentials!
Best, Peter
- the whole lfo to modwheel is not really workin .. or is it ? page 16 bottom remark. i only seem to get lfo workin with the modweel. why not a per preset setting: direct / modwheel
- the hardware setting, in the edtor i do not seem to have the idea it actually saves the parameters.. everytime i start the editor same settings, not the saved once.. a send button maybye?
After two weeks of using MT, the the DEACY/RELEAS and the RELASE ON/OFF still confuses me.
What i don´t get (in MODE 2) why i have to HOLD the RELASE ON/OFF button to ajust the releasetime??
This would be easyer to understand (at least for me):
a) RELASE ON/OFF off - i can ajust the DECAY-time
b) RELASE ON/OFF on - I can ajust the RELEASE-Time
and by the way: Thie is just what the panel-printing suggests!
The advantage of “No need to HOLD RELASE ON/OFF” is, that you don´t need your both hands and one hand will be always free for your keyboard.
I hope this makes sense
Peter