MIDI Help With Logic And Stage2

I recently bought a Midi Interface (Edirol UM-1Ex) for use with my Stage2 and Logic.

I successfully tried out the Little Taurus patch with SysEx Librarian (thanks, Amos), but have been having a few problems otherwise.

The most basic problem is eliminating MIDI feedback loops – which is probably a logic thing. Setting the LP to send and recieve on different channels eliminates the loop and allows me to use the Moog for note entry in the built in MIDI editor. Playback of hand entered notes (or notes recorded this way) works as expected too. I did have to go into MIDI settings to enable it to send the reset to eliminate stuck notes.

The one thing that doesn’t work as expected is if I’m recording from MIDI in realtime, instead of recording audio. What happens is that the individual note-ons/offs get recorded severely chopped up, so a whole note is recorded as a quick burst of much smaller notes, etc.

Can someone give me some pointers as to how to you record in logic or things I need to tweak/fix to make it record things as they happen without getting all chopped up/strange? It seems the other control signals might be getting garbled as well when recording live, but with the MIDI operations on different channels I would have thought this would eliminate the echo. I’ve played with switching Thru to OFF but that seems to just cut off the MIDI altogether.

I was hoping to be able to record a live take and use the MIDI to add backing tracks later, as I’m a bit too spontaneous/random to double track things nicely myself :slight_smile:

Thanks!

Follow up question – I loaded the Taurus patch fine, but haven’t been able to use SysEx librarian to backup patches like I thought it would. Cables are connected where they should be, and the Moog takes some time sending the data, though SysEx librarian sees nothing on the other end.

Any idea what I might be doing wrong?

My MIDI USB interface thing has two switches – one to switch the Advanced Driver Profile to the regular MIDI profile, and another to switch THRU on or off.

Also also thanks.

It’s more complicated than I expected, though perhaps I may not be using it much for recording. I’m tempted into picking up a Monomachine or something later and wanted to use that to sequence the Moog – so this is me just playing around – though it would be cool to be able to back stuff up. I suspect that since the Taurus patch got loaded ok I shouldn’t have any trouble with the new Arpeggiator firmware when it comes out – which is the real reason I picked up a MIDI interface.

Also also also thanks :slight_smile:

Anyone have any comments on their MIDI workflow with logic, if they use logic?

If I code things up in the sequencer manually, it’s fine, I’m mainly wanting to know what a good way to get it recording realtime is, and ideally one that allows recording/playback without a lot of moving things between tracks/slots.

Ok, ignoring my recording question, has anyone at least got “preset backup” and so forth working with a normal setup?

This isn’t complicated on the surface, so I’m not sure why it’s not working.

If I need to provide further info just let me know.

Hmm, I just managed to backup my presets now.

I’m blaming PEBKAC.

Still haven’t tried the record/playback thing but I’ll give it a shot later.

Thanks.

To disable MIDI feedback with Logic and the LP, I have turned ‘Local Control’ off.
This allows me to use and do everything on the Moog through Logic with no feedback and full record/playback possibilities.

For me the MIDI feedback is most annoying when using the arpeggiator.
When using the arp through Logic, the LP playes a ‘double arpeggiated’ pattern.


It’s still a workaround, so a real solution would be appreciated.

thanks
Blyb

I don’t think of Local Control = off as a workaround, it is the real solution for the situation where you are recording/monitoring MIDI through a sequencer and sending MIDI back to the synth. That’s exactly what the Local Control option exists for.

If there is a “more real” solution, I’d like to know about it also.
Otherwise, this is what I do also and I find it works pretty well.

The other option is not to echo incoming MIDI back to the synth… just play MIDI into the sequencer, and then play MIDI back to the synth when you are done recording… but no echoing of received MIDI back to the synth. Those are the two options as I understand it.

Cheers,

Amos