MF-104M / MF-104Z

Recently scored a 2nd 104, I did a little analysis/comparison (frequency & THD plots) that some might find interesting.

Delayed & Distorted (MF-104M / MF-104Z)


.

Interesting vids! Side by side the two units produce quite different results. Listening without knowing which unit was on which side really makes you pick what you like. I wasn’t expecting them to be so different. Prefer the 104z personally - raw, gritty, mangling and musical.

Don’t get me wrong, the M sounds like a great delay with its own smooth and delicate / detailed / tuned sound… but the Z is so distinct and stands out in the mix.

Yes, I guess I’m glad I haven’t sold my 104Z to get the 104M. The added features of the M are really, really cool.

Good vids indeed, thanks for taking the time and sharing. :slight_smile:

pretty insane stuff , nice analog rig u made there , the koma pedal looks interesting as well

I obviously like them both. With these videos I was just showing off the delay sections only. The added bonus/gem with 104M is the modulation. I really love adding a slow LFO to the delay tail ( = chorus delay). One of my favorite bass sounds. The 104Z can’t do this on it’s own. But the 104Z’s feedback/self oscillating nature is it’s strength.
You could replicate that on the 104M with the insert i/o plus a stompbox that adds gain to the feedback loop. Everything else aside both sound great, but both BBD chips/Design respond very differently. If I have to pick one it would be the 104M.