Hi, I’ve been obsessed over a band recently who make amazing use of pedals to create some wild noises. It inspired me to go out and buy an MF-102 Ring Modulator as well as some of the other pedals the guy uses.
After watching a lot of videos I worked out that somehow he uses a tuner to bring in the MF-102 (with the slicer noise still running alongside it) but more importantly it is ALWAYS sync’d up with the tempo of the Slicer pedal. The moog is switched on at 33 seconds in.
I wanted to know how I could hook this up to work in the same way it does for the guy in that band, and how to tempo-sync with other pedals if anyone has any advice?
Hey Dale, welcome to the forum and thanks for sharing: I like the music
I’m not sur to be aware of what is syncronized to the slicer here. Could you be more specific? Maybe give a timing in the vid you linked so that we can examine in details?..
Apologies, I get a bit excited and forget important details.
So feedback is being put through the slicer pedal, but at 33 seconds into the video he turns off the tuner (there’s another video I found that proves the tuner is actually turned off to trigger in the moog) which brings the moog’s synchronized blips and bloops in, alongside the sliced feedback.
It’s extremely tough to work out all of the connections and I’ve been tearing my hair out over it for the past couple of weeks.
Thanks for the welcome, the MF-102 sure is an amazing little thing!
I can see the tuner acting as a bypass switch, but I can’t figure the rest.
To me, that green pedal he tweaks, just next to the tuner, is responsible for the changes in sound. Maybe those changes are then altered by the MF, but once again I can’t figure out. Anyway, I don’t think the MF-102 is sync’able.
If you really are obsessed, as said before, send a mail to the band: they generally answer as well as they are not
bands playing weekly in arenas.
That being said, here is what I’d do: do not try to replicate, get you a well stocked pedalboard and experiment your own stuff. Happy accidents WILL happen, I can guarantee it
The green pedal you mentioned is a Super Shifter by the way
I just want to understand how it’s all set up and unfortunately they don’t reply to e-mails (everything goes through their management who usually just ignore me)
If I manage to work anything out I’ll let you know.
Just a guess, but could they be using something like an ElectroHarmonix 8-Step to control some MF-102 parameters via CV, and also have that synced to the Slicer? I think the Slicer and 8-Step both have MIDI inputs to be synced up with another controller’s clock, so maybe there’s a MIDI out coming from a sequencer and being split from there into both the Slicer and the 8-Step (or equivalent) device.
If anyone wants the full explanation on how everything is hooked up here I’d be happy to share. Thank you all for your thoughts, I’ll be finding tonnes of uses for the Moog now
I’m fairly certain that the MF-102 isn’t used in this track (I could be wrong tho). It sounds & looks (to me) like a combination of Zoothorn, sampler, slicer and pitch shifting.
Mic feedback into a RC-20 looper, (maybe the RingMOD here) into the POG. This into the slicer and then looped from there.
The second sound is likely the same sample in the RC-20, just played into a Boss PS-5 that is tweaked to generate the glitch grunt effect then into a delay at a short time to create a slight tremolo effect, or possibly into the line 2 of the slicer.
Pretty cool stacking of sounds and pedals regardless.
EDIT: LOL, I guess I should have read & watched the post above mine first HA!! NICE WORK!! Good to see I was really close! You could use the RingMod for distortion. On his board there is a sans amp, and the mixer that could be used to get some decent feedback.
There are probably a few different ways to be able to play this (could definitely use the looper instead of slicer if you wanted!) but ultimately I am pleased I could get it as close as I have.
Alien 8: How could I use the RingMod for distortion? Quite curious
