I’m either blind that I can’t find a free version of the LP Editor or you are just not giving one for free.
I’ve paid 1170 euros to buy a Little Phatty Stage II and you’re telling me I have to pay 70$ more to get the Editor.
What the !@#$? You guys should really give us free editors. Help music improve, not your wallet. You’re rich enough. 
Sorry if there is a free one but if there isn’t you really deserve this.
I was equally shocked,
but there are freeware Sysex dumpers (like Snoize Sysex Librarian on the Mac),
and you really can (and should) use the LP for editing. I don’t really see the use of an editor,
maybe that’s what Moog thought, as well 
One good use of an editor is to provide an easy way of comparing patches, categorizing patches (beyond 13 character name), creating ‘sets’ of patches, or to make broad changes to several patches at the same time (for instance to enable the Arp with common settings).
But you are right, the cost is a turn off. EDIT: But I think a 3rd party developed and sells the software. Moog, having limited resources can only do so much and I think we can all agree that they do a bang-up job concentrating on their core competency.
Changes to Phatty code over the most recent term specifically have (I think) caused havoc on the made-for-phatty librarians out there, at least I think that is the case. Due to the fixed 373 bytes per SysEx patch, the software guys had to cram settings and move bytes around in order to add all of the new features and I think (I’m not sure, but I think) that values are not bound to symbolic labels, so the 14th bytes is encoded for a specific parameter.
I have a Korg Radias and it has an absolutely terrific Patch librarian and it’s free. It lets you drag and drop across banks, etc.
For my Phatty, I just struggle with SysEx librarian on my Mac. It’s low budget and a struggle but at least it lets me perform two basic functions; save a patch, re-load a patch.
MIDI-OX will store and reload patches as Sys.ex files.
All phatties should come with a free download of the editor software.
Yes,
but Moog didn’t program them, Soundtower did. I guess lowering hardware cost for, say 30 USD (estimate) wasn’t discussable, they had no time to write it themselves, so they outsourced the editor.
Like Dave Smith Instruments, by the way. Both the DSI and Moog Synths are VERY well programmable from the hardware, and most people wouldn’t take a look with their ass at the editor. At DSI, only the PEK Rack, which desperately needs an editor, ships with it for free, the others need to be purchased at - guess where? Soundtower 
See it this way, guys: Your moog got cheaper this way, and if you must, you can support another small company. All three, Moog, DSI and Soundtower are tiny little spots on the music industry, and they make instruments for a tiny little audience, for people who know the difference - us! But I guess Moog is the biggest of the three
And yeah, Snoize Sysex Librarian and MidiOX work well. I only wish the LP would show the name of the save destination, not only the number. Maybe a higher OS version than mine does that…
Just curious, how do you know this?
I can’t help but feel that had Bob been around, he’d have made sure to get it out for free to those who’d spent a lot of money on a Phatty.
I don’t really see the necessity of an phatty editor. Yes, it would make the lcd-editing a bit easier. But the phatty is ‘optimized’ equipped with button for enough functions and in general very easy to work with. Of course Moog won’t provide an editor for free. It’s not their cup of tea.
I have a DSI Tetra, a synth that is absolutely hopeless to work with without the editor. I guess DSI knows that and have some kind of deal with Soundtower to provide an editor with basic functions (with the hope of selling the extra featured version [business model: Freemium]).
But that’s a whole different synth from the phatty …
Why?
Bob was around when the Voyager editor came out and it wasn’t free. This whole thread is ridiculous.
Maybe the LP should come with a CV pedal for free. After all those CV inputs are useless without one and Moog can surely afford to include it considering the LP’s price.
+1 
what I don’t get is that moog recently brought out a vst editor for one of the moogerfoogers which WAS free
If this works that would be fabulous!!
http://code.google.com/p/ctrlr/downloads/detail?name=Moog%20-%20Little%20Phatty%20-%20OSX.zip&can=2&q=moog+little+phatty for mac
http://code.google.com/p/ctrlr/downloads/detail?name=Moog%20-%20Little%20Phatty%20-%20Windows.zip&can=2&q=moog+little+phatty for windows
haven’t tested them yet though
Yes this works and works really well, Everything you would want the editor to do it can ,
the editor controls the phatty and the phatty controls the editor
Call your sound you was working on in the project from the editor without even saving that sound to the phatty just save the daw or you can save the pre set to your computer to recall it .And best bit for me is I can use automation in the arrangement view in ableton
I would have Payed the money to Rekon If they would have made the editor as good as this.
My biggest problem with giving money to Soundtower is their support is terrible. I found a major bug with their Mopho software and it took them several months to even reply to me and that was after having someone from Dave Smith give them a nudge.
I got a chance to play around with the one for OSX today. It works fairly well for the most part. The on/off switches for Glide and Sync don’t work at all, though.
Hi there!
I just tested those parameters here, it’s working fine.
i’m on win 7 64 bits, ableton live latest beta version
It may be something with the OSX version of the plugin. I did a bunch of testing and my LP Stage II is receiving the proper CC values from other software but this little plugin doesn’t seem to be sending them for the on/off values for sync and glide.
I’ll say that Soundtower hasn’t been the greatest in the customer service department!
Very few things are really free. Slim Phatty typically sells for $795, without a free editor. It could just as easily sell for $865 and include a “free” editor. That would stop the complaints about there not being a free editor, but everyone else who doesn’t care about an editor would be spending money needlessly. The third-party developers need to be paid one way or another, so the choices are to bundle the price into the unit, or just have the people who want it pay for it. (That said, if it were bundled with the unit, they presumably would not add the full $70, because they would be getting income from every purchase, whereas only a smaller percentage of buyers would otherwise buy it, so by amortizing over all the buyers, they could add a smaller cost to each sale.)