I’m hoping to gain advice from the Moog experts here. I currently own a LP, however I’m considering an upgrade to Voyager to I can have three VCOs. Does anyone know if I run a Slim Phatty into my LP’s audio in, I will achieve four VCO capabilities? What would the differences be between using a Voyager with 3 internal VCO’s versus using a Slim Phatty running into another LP? Can you still get FM - like sounds using both methods?\
thank you for your time
Just out of curiosity, why would you want to run a SP into the audio in? Is it just to have all the oscs filtered through the same filter or what, or are you trying to sum all of the outputs to a single amp or device?
I don’t have an SP or an LP but I do own a Voyager. I can’t tell of any difference between running the SP into an Audio input other than the extra Oscillator.
Keep in mind though that the Voyager has a Mixer out/Filter In insert jack which you can add signals to the Voyager’s audio chain prior to it’s filter. That is one option that I don’t believe the LP has that the Voyager does.
If you can go for the Voyager, I seriously doubt that you will regret the decision!
Eric
I am wanting to be able to have more than two VCO’s involved in the creation of new sounds and to be able to have them influence each other. I’m wondering what the advantages/disadvantages are to doing this with multiple synths as opposed to one that contains extra VCO.
I don’t think that you can do FM like that.
THe only way that I know to do some true FM is to use one osc to modulate the pitch of another one, and that generally requires an Osc CV input or some type of internal modulation routing.
You can do this with a Voyager/Vx351 combo, and it will make an osc sound dirtier or gritty with a noise source.
The SP has no inputs as of yet though.
With the Voyager’s modulation, you can use an osc like that to modulate one of it’s own oscs. With the Mod Bus outputs from the Vx351, you can do FM that way to the LP, but to all oscs, not to just one.
I don’t know if theres something that you vcan do with the software or a Midi CC that will allow you to do what you are thinking. It would be nice though.
I hope I’ve helped you out in some way and not confused you further lol.
Eric
Speaking to the generic capabilities of the two (considering Analog board of Voyager to Old School), the biggest difference aside from the obvious extra OSC and the fact that it can be run in Low frequency mode for a 2nd LFO is the fact that the two MOD busses in the Voyager series allows for things like attaching aftertouch/pressure which the Phatty cannot do at all to destinations like individual OSCs, or Filter, etc.
You can even attach both LFOs to each other in a way to create a warble that runs slow, then increases, then runs slowly again. If you compare the panel of the Voyager to the Mod options on the LP, you’ll see what I mean.
As for audio input and mixer capabilities of LP, it can take audio in the very same way as Voyager, except there is no ‘mix’ capability; it’s on and is as loud as the incoming signal. Your only option is to attenuate it outboard, or lower the amplitude of the two Phatty OSCs if that is desired.
Slim is certainly an option but unless you have CV outs on your Phatty (it’s not available on the SP), there really is not much that you can do between them from a CV perspective unless you leverages a 3rd party Midi to CV interface then plug that back into the SP. You WILL miss the hard SYNC between the LP and SP but you will have the benefit of EITHER pushing SP’s audio output through LP’s filter and VCA envelopes OR having a completely different set of ENVs which can be handy in some situations, for instance, to have a percussive thump envelope followed by a swell.
I haven’t tried the duophonic between an LP and SP with the newest software but obviously, this is attractive in the *Phatty configuration.
I should add that personally, I bought the LP Tribute first, THEN added a Voyager Old School. I won’t sell either. Even if it means waiting a year to save up more dough or selling your car and trading down, it may be worthwhile having both. If you are a minimalist and only want one board or play live and don’t want the complexity then obviously, the Voyager is more capable.
I hope this helps you.
If you truly want to be able to cross modulate or do anything out of the ordinary with multiple oscillators, you need something like one of these. (But realize some of the coolest sounds I create don’t use oscillators at all.)
