Help needed using LP with Ableton via M-Audio Uno

Hi there. I recently purchased both a Moog Little Phatty as well as a copy of Ableton Live 8. I’ve been learning more and more about the LP each day, and I’m excited to be a part of the Moog community. However, the learning curve with Ableton is a bit more difficult.

I’m a music composition student in college, would like to pursue writing pieces via a DAW, and naturally would like to hear the sounds of my LP in Ableton, and add them to tracks. I just want to specify that I just started using Ableton, and I’m not too experienced with it yet. So keep that in mind when forming your response. :mrgreen:

I purchased a Midi-to-USB interface: the M-Audio Uno. Here’s where I’m at (I’m using a Windows 7 64bit Laptop):
-I turned on the LP
-attached the Midi In and Midi Out cables to the appropraite ports on the side of the LP
-Plugged the USB cord into my computer and waited for it to recognize it
-Started up Ableton
I’ve noticed that I can use the LP as a Midi Controller, but not actually hear any of it’s “natural” sounds. I tried to create an “External Instrument”, but I’m lost. I’ve been searching the web for a few days, and can’t find any clear answer (that I can understand) so this is my last resort.

Hope you all can help me!

-Devin

To hear the LP inside Live you also need an audio interface.

You didn’t need to buy the Uno if your LP is a Stage II, a USB/MIDI interface is built in.

Alrighty, I will try that asap.

Also, is it possible to play an external instrument, such as a bass guitar through the LP? As in, plug the bass guitar into the external inst. port, and then the LP output to an amp, and here the LP’s affect on the bass sound?

Lol, it’s a generalized question, but I tried it and it didn’t seem to work. Maybe I’m doing something wrong.

Hmmmm, alright. It uses the same cable as my printer, and I tried it out. I was happy to find Ableton recognized it, and it’s receiving it’s signal, however I still can’t hear anything. I’m so confused. :frowning:

The USB cable only carries MIDI which is just digital control messages, not audio.

You need a USB audio interface.

You dont NEED and audio interface, but it will make your life easier down the road..

Ok, so you got the computer to recognize the LP when you plug it in via USB. Now, find an audio input on your computer (Line in preferably, but some laptops will only have a microphone input, that should at least demonstrate this). You must take an audio cable, plug it into the “AUDIO OUT” of the little phatty and plug that into the computer audio input (you probably will need some kind of adaptor because the LP is a 1/4 inch jack, and most native audio plugs on computers are 1/8th inch).

Ok, now that you have the LP hooked up via USB and the audio cable going to the computer, do the following:

In ableton,
Go to Preferences (under options, or CTRL + ,)
Under the MIDI/SYNC tab, you should see under MIDI Ports “Little Phatty Stage 2”. Make sure that “TRACK” and “SYNC” are ON (sync is necessary if you want to midi sync the arp or LFO).
Now under the AUDIO tab, make sure the driver type and device match the native audio card of the computer. If you get an audio interface later, choose ASIO and the device that you are using…
Then click the INPUT SETUP button. This will give you a list of audio inputs. You should only see two buttons, one that says "1(mono) & 2(mono)’ and the other that should say “1/2(Stereo)”.. Make sure that the 1(mono) & 2(mono) button is yellow/on. The stereo selection shouldnt matter.

Close those windows, then create a midi track and add an external instrument plug in.
On the “MIDI To” drop down, select the Little Phatty
Under the “Audio from” drop down, select Chanel 1 (or 2, shouldnt matter). If you select 1/2, then you will only hear audio out of one speaker.
Now, on the track I/O under Monitor, make sure the IN button is on (should turn orange).
Finally, make sure the Output on/off on the LP is On. At this point, you should be able to play notes on the phatty and hear them through the computer speakers. You should see activity on the track that you have the external instrument selected on.

Hope that helps.

You really should get an audio interface though. Even the cheapest ones will be better than the audio card on a stock computer…