Help me make a decision in buying a Moog!

[jamezdd73]

@Bryan T

@jamezdd73

If I were a paid musician, perhaps my choice would’ve been different, but because I won’t be making money (anytime soon) out of this investment, I decided that for now the LP is a better choice.

Hey, some of us are paid musicians (not paid particularly well, but paid none the less) and we rock LP’s. It is a great piece of equipment for making music. I think you made a good choice, not that you could make a bad one when choosing between Moogs!

Bryan

Well… when I say “paid musician”… what I really mean is… if I were Keith Emerson…

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not trying to put down the LP or anything, I just meant if I were some super-star synthesist I’d probably buy me a Voyager. And a LP… and probably every other Moog I could get my hands on…

I reckon I’ll put the LP to more use anyway, than I would a Voyager, at least this early in the game.

[johnjay]

Hello all, I’m new to the Forum and new to the Moog world. I’m new to keyboards too, I play guitar. I seem to have been bitten by the Moog bug a few weeks ago and I’m trying to learn all I can.

It’s a bit hard to get a sense of what can be done on the Voyager that can’t be done on Little Phatty.

This thread helps a lot and I think I understand comments like:

@Christopher J. Boylan

But if he’s going to explore and experiment at home or in the the studio, he’s going to run out of territory very quickly and start saying things like, “hey… my LP doesn’t do THAT… or even THAT!” The LP has it’s place as a down and dirty extra analog synth for those that NEED the sounds it produces and want the authentic MOOG sound at a cheaper price.

But if someone is embarking on a journey to LEARN analog synthesis and is looking for YEARS of exploration and experimentation, then no question what-so-ever the OS is the way to go. Especially with all of the things MOOG makes that you can add on to it.

Does anyone have examples of the types of sounds you can make on a voyager that you can’t make on a Little Phatty?

[EricK]

Well the Voyager thas dualing Low pass filters that can be changed to a lowpass/highpass filter essentially creating a bandpass filter. You can also space the cutoff frequencies out to crete some true stereo effects.

Also The voyager has LOTS of CV inputs when compared to a LP and an expansion box that is essential for loads and loads of CV OUTS.

The Voyager has an Extra Osc which can double as an LFO for Freq Modulation of Osc 1, and the Voyager also has programmable destinations for such interesting VOltages that occur from turning Osc 3 into a control source.

As far as actual sounds go perhaps some others can help you, but any with 3 Oscs are going to be pretty darn intense (rather than saying fat)

Eric

[johnjay]

Thanks for the info.

I can see how the bandpass filter combination could create sounds that you couldn’t get with just the low pass. I’ve been playing with the Alturia mini V demo software to help me understand more about Moog sounds but I don’t think I can get band pass sounds with that. Maybe I could use the Alturia modular to get an idea of what bandpass brings to the table.

Of course, that brings up the whole comparison of analog vs. digital, but I won’t go there.

“pretty darn intense” sounds is probably not what I’m too interested in so maybe a third osc doesn’t matter to me.

The range of the oscs seem to be different on the voyager vs. phatty. Is that of parcticle importance?

And it seems that phatty doesn’t have a noise generator, is that correct? I guess you can bring a noise generator in from an external source.

I haven’t found any side by side comparisons of the two instruments. Does anyone know of any?

John

[jamezdd73]

The best thing to do, as I have learned myself from this thread, is to go to a shop which has both of them, play them side-by-side, and then go from there.

[acorkos]

@johnjay

And it seems that phatty doesn’t have a noise generator, is that correct? I guess you can bring a noise generator in from an external source.

the noise source could come from your free cp-251

[johnjay]

@acorkos

@johnjay

And it seems that phatty doesn’t have a noise generator, is that correct? I guess you can bring a noise generator in from an external source.

the noise source could come from your free cp-251

Somehow I don’t think I’m going to sort through all this in time though.

[Bryan_T]

@acorkos

@johnjay

And it seems that phatty doesn’t have a noise generator, is that correct? I guess you can bring a noise generator in from an external source.

the noise source could come from your free cp-251

The LP does have noise source, but it is only for the modulation section. The CP-251 or MP-201 provide possible audio noise sources.

Bryan