# Grandmother arp - hold issue

**URL:** https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/grandmother-arp-hold-issue/20294
**Category:** Moog Semi-Modular Analog Synthesizers
**Created:** [March 14, 2019, 7:18pm UTC](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/grandmother-arp-hold-issue/20294 "2019-03-14T19:18:22Z")
**Posts on this page:** 5
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### Author: ![MescalHeart](https://forum.moogmusic.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/c77e96/32.png) [@MescalHeart](https://forum.moogmusic.com/u/MescalHeart)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2019, 7:18pm UTC](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/grandmother-arp-hold-issue/20294/1 "2019-03-14T19:18:22Z")

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Suddenly my Grandmother’s Arp Hold function only remembers the last note played, not the entire sequence of notes I held. So I play with the ARP on, hold 3 notes for instance, I hear the 3 note arp sequence, press HOLD and release the keys at the same time, only one note playing. When I change Octaves then also nothing happens. It feels like it’s sort of stuck. Does anyone have an idea about what is going on? Cheers

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### Author: ![MescalHeart](https://forum.moogmusic.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/c77e96/32.png) [@MescalHeart](https://forum.moogmusic.com/u/MescalHeart)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2019, 12:02pm UTC](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/grandmother-arp-hold-issue/20294/2 "2019-03-16T12:02:03Z")

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Got in touch with Moog support, and for now, this issue can be resolved by choosing to either receive or send midi in Ableton, setting up both at the same time cause this issue with the HOLD function. It’s a shame, but at least a workaround for now. Support told me a firmware update is being worked on to alleviate the issue.

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### Author: ![ortho](https://forum.moogmusic.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/2acd7d/32.png) [@ortho](https://forum.moogmusic.com/u/ortho)
#### Post date: [April 23, 2023, 2:14am UTC](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/grandmother-arp-hold-issue/20294/3 "2023-04-23T02:14:51Z")

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Just got a Grandmother, this was helpful thanks.

I just leave the Moog input switched off in Ableton now unless i am recording into the DAW with the Moog keyboard and the Arp Play and Hold buttons work normally.

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### Author: ![MAAAAA](https://forum.moogmusic.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@MAAAAA](https://forum.moogmusic.com/u/MAAAAA)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2026, 7:40am UTC](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/grandmother-arp-hold-issue/20294/4 "2026-09-30T07:40:41Z")

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Hello,

I Think I have a problem with the button “Hold” on my GrandMother. When I press the button Hold, the synth does not hold the note I played. It only work on the harp and sequencer. But on other GrandMother I tried in shops, the synth does hold the last note you played when engaged the button “Hold”. So I don’t understand how some device do this feature, and some other don’t (like mine).

Any ideas where does it come from, and how to resolve it ?

Thanks.

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### Author: ![HelenMarsh](https://forum.moogmusic.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@HelenMarsh](https://forum.moogmusic.com/u/HelenMarsh)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2026, 8:29am UTC](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/grandmother-arp-hold-issue/20294/5 "2026-09-30T08:29:52Z")

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That sounds like the MIDI-routing interaction described earlier in this thread, rather than a failed Hold switch. I would first test the Grandmother with USB MIDI disconnected, then with Ableton’s MIDI input disabled while leaving output enabled only when needed.If Hold works in that state, re-enable one MIDI direction at a time. On these units, having Ableton send and receive simultaneously can prevent Hold from latching the last note. A power-cycle after changing the routing is worth trying too; that separates a routing state problem from a hardware fault.
