Editor Librarian Questions

I just bought the Librarian last night and I think I may have made a big mistake by purchasing it! I noticed that the download from the Moog site is an older version, 1.1.0.. Is there an update for this? I have also noticed that I cannot load any saved banks, (those with a .mlp extension to the phatty). Did I just waste $70? What is the deal here?

-I am on a Mac with 10.5.6

Thanks

Indeed. Transmitting and receiving do not seem to play so nice. I’ve made the appropriate settings to get it to send/receive the banks that come with the app but I couldn’t upload my custom bank. I can change values in realtime, etc. I lost a set of custom patches during one of my attempts to upload a bank from the LP. I should have used SysEx Librarian first! http://www.snoize.com/SysExLibrarian/

The software does seem a bit flaky.

I too am on Mac 10.5.6

EDIT: I just wanted to add that I LOVE my Little Phatty Stage II. This is an incredible synth for the $1000 I paid for it! Thank you Moog!

I do see some benefits to this program, like morphing presets for us “preset challenged”. But I did loose a bank with some nice presets I had created for a song. It will be difficult to duplicate them again. It would have been nice to know this was a problem before hand before buying this editor. Of course some research before hand and I would have known this.

What is the current version of this program? I noticed that the link to sound tower for the phatty is broken. Will this product not be supported? If so, this is not good for kind of a buggy program.

There is a “version 199” of the LP Editor on the SoundTower website:
http://soundtower.com/moog/littlephatty/download/MoogLPSetup199.dmg

This looks like it might be newer than your version…

I know that the next update to the SoundTower LP Editor is very close to release right now… there are a few tweaks remaining so that the Editor can interpret Apeggiator BPM for the newer Little Phatty operating systems, but an update is definitely in development now and should be out soon.

best wishes,

Amos

Thanks for the tip and the update Amos! This is very much appreciated. Hope something fun is in store for you this evening!

-Matt

Will there be a way to download updates for our LP software editor so that it matches the OS in the machine? It’d be a bummer to have purchased it, and then not have a use for it.

yes, updates to the SoundTower editor are free… the next update to the editor should be out soon, and it will match the newest Little Phatty OS.

You are just too good to us Amos, it’ll make everything a lot easier now that the editor actually acknowledges the existance of the arpeggiator! Thanks.

I just got my Little Phatty SE II and I’m having fun, fun, fun! I love it.

With regard to SoundTower, I can see why smaller companies need to charge and I’m glad to support them. I’ve heard good things about the folks at SoundTower.

For basic Editor/Librarian patch saving/restoring etc, I’ve found using SysExLibrarian on the Mac, which is free, works just fine:
http://www.snoize.com/SysExLibrarian/

For now, all I’m doing is loading and saving patch banks (Factory SE-II, SE-I, Tibute Edition, and my own stuff). For this, SysExLibrarian is all I need.

It doesn’t give you the fine grain real-time control that ST gives you, but it does the basic saving & loading of the patches with ease.

I’m thinking of writing a small Cocoa App on the Mac to do patch management for my LP2, and maybe eventually real-time control, but since I have a full-time software engineering job, I’m not sure I’ll have time. :slight_smile: It looks like it would be a fun project, but also challenging. I’ve done this kind of thing before, but it’s a matter of getting enough time.

I agree a plug-in version of the editor would make it much more attractive. I also know the extra work to do this can be non-trivial. (Something else to investigate). Basically, you have to wrap it in the plug-in format (AU/VST/RTAS) and not break the UI, among other things!

I may eventually buy the SoundTower editor, to support fellow coders, but right now I’m just digging the sounds of my first real analog synth and having fun.

I loaded the Tribute patch bank, as well as the original LP-I patch bank on my LP2 using SysExlibrarian and it was interesting to play with all the new sounds.

Back to tweaking!

Thank you, Moog folks, for all your hard work in bringing the LP2 out!

Rick B

Yeah, Sysex Librarian is all I need right now. :smiley: