I have my M32 hooked up to an Octatrack which I’d like to use to program the M32. Whenever I press play on the Octatrack, the M32’s sequencer starts running is there a way to disable this - essentially so I can use the M32 as a sound module only.
The problem I have is, I have to manually stop the sequencer every time and until I do I don’t hear any notes from the M32 (via the Octatrack). In other words, when I try and play the M32 live from the Octatrack’s keyboard all I get is silence until I stop the M32 sequencer - then notes play.
I am also trying my best to find out how you can have a sequence running from my daw (ableton) without the M32 sequencer interfering… with no success unfotunately.
Is there anyone how knows how to let you play the mother 32 from a daw so that the sequencer does not start running? Any help or additional background is much appreciated
The M-32’s sequencer is going to start running every time it receives a MIDI Start message, and incoming notes will transpose that sequence.
Ableton Live automatically generates a MIDI Start message when you hit play or record.
You’ll need to dig around on the Live forms for a way to edit or filter that message. Because I don’t think the M-32 has an assignable Global MIDI channel - which is what you’d need to set those program changes/start/stop messages to a channel other than the active one.
That’s really annoying. Currently the M32 doesn’t play well with the Octatrack (and probably any Elektron gear that sends Midi Clock). Basically if I have the OT sending Midi Clock, I can’t play the M32 - notes get stuck and it’s generally unusable. As soon as I switch off Midi Clock then it plays fine, but then I have no Midi Clock for all my other gear.
Any sign of this getting fixed? Pretty much renders the M32 useless for me in my hardware set up.
@Johan - you might just simply need to switch off the ‘Sync’ option in Live’s Midi Preferences for the Midi port that’s sending to the M32.
I was having this issue with my MPC 1000 at first as well. The fix was to disable MIDI Sync on the MPC. No I can record/play sequences from my MPC without activating the Mother’s sequencer.
My control keyboard is connected to the MPC with both in/out MIDI connections, and the MIDI thru from the keyboard goes out to the Mother. I can trigger Mother notes from my pads, keys, or the Mother keyboard, and sequence Mother notes from the MPC by playing them on the control keys or pads.
Long story short OP, figure out how to disable the MIDI Sync (or equivalent function) on your Octatrack and you should be good.
The rest of the info is for anyone having trouble getting their gear connected via MIDI with Mother.
Is it actually syncing other sequencers start/stop/midi time or is it just sending notes to other devices? If its just notes out and not needing start/stop/clock, they will still send with sync off.
Do the other devices have the ability to set a midi recieve channel and does the Octatrack have the ability to send clock/sync on a different channel than Omni out? If so then setup other devices on midi channel 2 and send clock/sync out midi channel 2 and note on/off out Omni, while the Mother 32 stays on channel 1.
My mv8800 cannot turn off sync that I know of yet, but found a workaround by using the tempo knob on the Mother 32 to match clock divisions to notes in sequence sent to the Mother 32. Sequencer still running, but just playing its single note. As soon as external sequence sent to it, it plays the sent note pitches and the tempo clock division can be set to give one to one note on sequencing in the few sequences I have tried so far.
So after some reading, the Mother 32’s default tempo source already is set to cv. I found no way to not have the sequencer start when I started my mv8800 sequencer in pattern mode
In song mode on mv8800 options are there for separate sync, mmc, mtc on/off or receive/send channels.
I found that the tempo clock division options on the Mother 32 really work well if you have no option to turn sync off. So external sequencer start also starts Mother 32 sequencer but you can match up clock divisions on simple sequences fed to Mother 32 to just have the individual notes played by the Mother 32.
I can work within this limitation easy I think. Maybe check external sequencer options too as I found my song mode on my mv8800 very easy to turn sync off but still send mtc to the Mother and my other instruments. Sequencer then doesn’t auto start on the Mother 32 but lfo clocked rates still match tempo.
I was experiencing this “issue” with the Octatrack, but simply turning off TRANSP send in the MIDI sync menu allows one to sequence the M32 from OT without starting the M32’s sequencer.
Midi Clock send remains on.
I’ve started sequencing a Mother-32 (Mom #2 is on the way) with a Korg Electribe 2. There’s no direct way to disable the MIDI Start message on that piece of gear, but if you don’t have it as the Master Clock pressing Play doesn’t send the Start message, it just starts playing the sequence. Currently I’m using a Boss DR 202 as the Master Clock, but I’ll probably pick up a Roland SBX-1. I could also sync the Korg to Live but it’s a drag having to have a DAW running just to do some noodling.
I have the same issue as others. I have the Social Entropy Engine as my sequencer and I want to sequence the M32 from here, but if I disable Midi sync from the Engine then I can’t send clock messages to other gear on that midi port.
My other gear have settings to switch the midi clock source from Auto to internal which solves the issue, but M32 doesn’t have this feature… or am I missing something? Is there a way of creating a blank sequencer pattern maybe?
in my case i set up my MPC 1000 as sending SYNC only for “A” midi chanels and my “mother 32” is controled by one of the “B” midi channels
i need some other synths to be synchronized , LFO and stuff
i did not find the way for her to ignore the start and stop messages.
I find this disappointing, and a very clear oversight in the software phase of dev.
The sequencer is a core object of control “inside” this machine and there should be a “user” based method of turning it off if needed.
This problem only relates to people who are using one midi interface with multiple devices “including” drum machines (its handy for them to get a start/stop) on the same interface but different channels.
I love my Moogs…but grrrrrr!
Solutions - (None that are as “logical” as having an on/off seq setting)
If you’re using a seq (any kind doesn’t matter) that has no ability to “filter” messages, (SYS messages 0xFA start 0xFB continue 0xFC stop) per channel, per/for a particular interface, then the only solution is to have an interface purely for the M32, and turn off MidiClock for that interface (allowing that your seq lets you do that, if it doesn’t…youre up the creek). I have two M32’s, I have to dedicate an interface to each one.
