I did this track as a demo for some friends to hear what the Voyager sounds like. Id really really like some great constructive criticism on my technique. I really hate my lack of keyboard skills.
Anything that you guys can offer to help me will be so appreciated.
Respectfully,
Eric
The track is “Triojamoog”. It really was a recording mistake because Im aware that the Voyager was too loud and overpowered the guitar. I think its best at the 7 minute mark though. I don’t remember what preset that I used but at 7 minutes i switched to an original program.
Just to clarify, theres some use of the 104 and 102 on there.
My buddy gave me a cd with about 5 tracks on it, the same track but different guitar takes. I just recorded this into my console as 1 long jam and I went from there and recorded it from there in 1 take after a little practicing. I messed up and wasn’t able to turn the voyager down any but like I said this was just to give them an Idea of what it woudl sound like with some synth in there.
EricK, only you know what you were going for. I don’t know, man. Sounds good to me. What were the places you “messed up” in? What were you going for exactly in those places? My favorite parts personally are 2:30-5:26 and 5:47-6:57. You seemed a little off before 2:30…you didn’t seem to be in the groove yet. I’ve discovered (personally, of course), that once I find the groove I want, I can continue to ride it even after the song is done. Of course, it usually takes a couple minutes for me to find my groove. Great tune!
I was just curious to know peoples opinions. The keyboard is not my instrument of choise.
See, sometimes when Im trying to program a sound, I get too caught up on the tone. Like for instance, when people first started patching modulars or when someone like Kieth Emerson created his famous Saw lead…how was he to know what anyone else would think of his patch? WHat constitutes a good patch? SOmetimes when I get to programming Im trying to think, does this sound funky, does this sound classic or does this sound just like a generic patch? Does it go with the Music, etc.
I guess im being totally overly critical of myself so Im trying to get an objective opinion. TO me it just sounds like repetetive white key BS.
This is just a different track because I can really spend some time writing a melody that Im happy with but soloing is totally different. I guess I need to just take some lessons or something.
Basically I decided to post this here because most people here are true synth afficianidos and you guys have ben listening to synth players enough to know what you like, what youd scrap, what you think is over the top, and what youd really like to hear coming from a Moog synthesiser.
I must admit that I didn’t listened to the whole track, I couldn’t wait seven minutes for the second lead sound (which sounds very good).
I’m not really into that funky way of playing on a synth, so who am I to judge your skills?
I think if you want to let your friend here what the Voyager sounds like it should have no external processing and you should tweak it more or flip through more presets. At the moment it seems more about your playing than the sound.
Your playing seems fine, although a little sloppy in places.
Acid,
Well I was trying to get the bass player interested in Jamming again on a regular basis, so my goal was to 1. let him hear what it would sound like with a synth, 2. let him hear what kind of potential sound the 3 of us would have together and 3 I tried to make it sound pretty good playing wise, and 4, I want to also let other people hear what the Voyager sounds like with other Foogers because when Im doing a recording its really hard to leave some Foogers out of it lol just like its hard to leave 2 Oscs out of the program lol.
I really appreciate the comments so far, hopefully more will follow.
Mask,
Thanks for the link, Im watching all the parts that I can find now. I barely reckognized Jordan with the hair, lol.
i think the playing sounds pretty good, i would just suggest leaving more space in between some of the riffs and notes, not between every note. it seems a little cluttered. i do this all the time when i record with my moog. i want to just play for ever and then i listen to it and i start losing intrest right away. the notes you play sound more important and dramatic when the others get taken away. hope that makes sense
and the sounds you have are fantastic, i would just demo a couple more sounds to give your friend a better idea of just how versitile the voyager really is.
First of all, if you want to show how versile the voyager is, it would be more interesting to make a track only with the voyager. Mulititracking, with no effects.
Second of all, it seems as if it´s not the sounds, but the playing you want the listener to guide his attention at. It seems as if the whole track only consists of you soloing the voyager, and it gets a little boring. Sorry to say.
Or you could use your foogers and say “Everything on this track is made by moog (and me)”
You know, I figure if I can come up with a track that passes the test with you guys here who are all Moog heads…if you like them then probably other people will.
Actually I found some of it to be boring and the original track was truncated…its really 13 minutes long lol.
Like I said white key repetetive BS. I think that someone with far superior keyboard skills than myself can totally visiualize everything im doing and s thinking the same thing.
I appreciate all of the feedback and Ill surely keep it in mind when I do something else.
Respectfully,
Eric
Edit: I think some of what influenced me the most on this track was Bernie, Santana, and Herbie Hancock’s solo on “The Trailer” I think Morris Day’s “THe Walk” played a role there too. And Im sorry, I really have to give props to Nick Montoya because he plays the Moog like he really loves it and I dig the hell out of that. I have mad respect for him and what he’s doing with Moog synths.
I agree 100% with this statement. The Volt per Octaves are a great band who do so much more with sound than I could have ever imagined possible. They are definitely the latest in a long string of influences of mine. Thanks, Nick, for all the great music!