I’ve ordered one anyways. That said, how do the knobs feel on the S37. I thought the SubP did not feel as solid as the LP. Maybe it was just my imagination running away with me.
They’re smaller so I would say they’re not as solid as my Minimoog OS. But guess what? I prefer the Sub 37 way more than my OS! They’ll definitely last though! Let me know what you think once you get it.
The build feels exceptional. I didn’t like the buttons on the LP, except that they light up which is fun. The Sub 37 panel is much more crowded, but organised so logically, and the whole thing feels like a rolls Royce compared to even my LP stage 2. I think because it’s a tribute edition with the side wood panels, orange lights and the little lit up buttons, which do feel solid and reliable, though at first sight seem like they might be too toylike. The knobs are smaller, but as solid and smooth as the ones on my LP. These knobs are still a great size for adult hands, the whole thing feels perfect to me, so much so that I don’t analyse any of it, I’m just enchanted.
I agree the Sub Phatty did seem a bit hollow in construction, I didn’t buy one. The 37 is a monster compared to its predecessor.
“I agree the Sub Phatty did seem a bit hollow in construction”
I’m glad it was not just me.
I wholeheartedly agree that the build quality is superb. Every knob and switch feels firmly intact, nothing feels flimsy at all to me. My only comparison (that I’ve had hands on with) would be to the MS20 mini. Now of course the price points are completely different, but the MS20 mini feels like a toy compared to the Sub 37 - knobs are very loose and don’t feel like they will last more than a few years. I fully expect my 37 to last decades.
I fucking love my Sub Phatty. I worship that synth. It is perfect.
No offense meant. I wanted to love my LP, and frankly can sit and play preset 29 (Taurus bass) for hours in total happiness.
But after years of buying budget synths and seeing their downfall where one or two things make it just not good enough, or too complex for me to “get”. the sub 37 tribute edition feels like it was made for me. In fact it has replaced my computer. It sits on my desk and I just play with it, like I’ve heard people are supposed to do with synths. The sub 37 just speaks to me. And it is a pleasure.
I just received my S37 a few hours ago. It is what I wanted with my LP but did not know until I had the LP for a while. I’m in knob heaven. As far as the build, It seems much more sturdy than the Sub P. Again it might be my imagination. I love the sound, the functionality the build and the looks. There is a lot to this synth. I might be done buying for a while. Except for the new Korg/Arp Odyssey (there’s always a but).
Build is excellent. Everything just feels solid. Only thing is the black mat paint below the keys which I am not sure it will remain scratch free.
Build quality of both SubP and S37 is equal. Though my S37 has the f and g key 1mm lower than the other keys. That shouldnt be…maybe i should return it?
Yes it will. My Little Phatty had the same finish; after 7 years it still looked new. ![]()
So I’m here to stand down.
I had a chance to play a sub phatty this weekend. And yes the Sub P does in fact have the same feel as the Sub 37. I don’t know what I had thought when I first played the Sub Phatty. But it does not suck or feel of lesser quality. I STAND CORRECTED.
I now have both the Sub 37 and the Sub Phatty. The build quality on both are superior to most others, they are built like tanks and a pleasure to play and tweak. The only difference I really notice is that the key action on the Sub Phatty is just a little stiffer than my Sub 37. I prefer the Sub 37 but the difference is so small it’s hardly worth mentioning.
Does anyone have any damage to the wood side panels? Just got mine and there’s a few small marks on both pieces (one is next to the KB Octave button and the other just above the highest key). They are both on the inside edge of the wood, so I don’t think it would shave happened during shipping.
Just wondering if this is typical. Kind of surprising to see on a brand new instrument.
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This is absolutely not normal, and we apologize. We QC each piece of wood and go to great lengths to make sure each looks great. If it doesn’t, it gets tossed. Please contact our support department and we’ll get you a new set of sides ASAP.
-Your Friends at Moog
I ordered my Sub 37 from Long and Mcquade. When i received it some 15 weeks later, the box was damaged ans well as the Styrofoam inside, i did a quick inspection in my excitement and thought everything was fine. I later noticed the wood panel had separated from the metal, and the bottom corner of the wood was split. It appears maybe it was damaged during shipping. I mentioned it to The people at Long and Mcquade and they said to bring it back and they will get me a new unit. Am i going to have to wait another 14 - 16 weeks to get a replacement?
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I hope you realize THAT has absolutely nothing to do with Moog’s “build quality” but rather, the gorillas that manhandled your package. It’s the number one reason I always opt for insurance with musical instruments regardless of the shipping method…it saves a lot of heartache and YES, you may have to wait for shipping time but you should contact whom you purchased from and in light of this situation they should expedite a new one to you but usually THAT only happens once the damaged or otherwise object is received by them so you probably want to make sure they actually will HAVE a Sub 37 to exchange for yours and keep copies of ALL correspondence.
This is such a great synth that as painful as it may be to have to wait a bit longer for a pristine, undamaged model, but it surely will be well worth it in the end.
Also, in an ideal world and situation I would make sure they pay for shipping back and free shipping WITH insurance on new one. The business you bought it from SURELY had insurance and sometimes you only have a specified period to make a claim so I would be making some phone calls and emails right away!
I have a split in one of my wood panels since new. I have thought about getting a replacement but shipping to uk has been off putting. Should i get it done? Its quite noticeable. I can upload pic if required
personally if i was you, i would just get replacement wood end cheeks. i wouldnt send my precious whole Sub37 synth through the mail again. Youre likely to get it back with much more damage than a few wood chips.
replacing the wood end cheeks is really easy. its just a few screws and they come off. i use the trusty ole reversable screwdriver that came with my Roland JV1080 expansion board 15 years ago haha damn that little black thing has been handy over the years, i go into a panic if i cant find it
Cheers,
Blackout
So i should just ask moog to send me a replacement?