Bass MurF tutorial???

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Hey everyone

I got a bass murf last october and so far I’ve played around with it a lot… But I’m still a little bit dazzled with this awesome piece of machinery. I feel like it can do SO MUCH but I have no idea how. :frowning: I want to get its full potential!

And yes I have read the manual (nice science class there).

So far I’ve managed to get some quite interesting chorus-like and phaser-like sounds out of it, but does anybody know of other cool things you can make it do?

Also one thing that really bums me is that fact that it doesn’t have any banks to save patterns in, or any foot switches to swap between patterns. Does anybody know if these things can be accomplished with any accessories? I know you can use the Moog EP2 expression pedal on it to fiddle with the knobs with your foot, and that you can use its tap foot feature with a footswitch, but that’s not really what I’m looking for, I was thinking more of using it as a stompbox.

Any help greatly appreciated. :slight_smile:

PS:

Oh and before you post anything please bear in mind that I’m a lil tech challenged (you may have noticed) but I am willing to learn, I wanna know how all this stuff works. (that’s one of the reasons why I read all the manual of my murf)

And before you mention it… I know that CV stands for Control Voltage, but that’s about it…

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Magellen,

Check out the MuRF section on KnobTweak. There are files of settings, ideas and suggestions that you might find helpful. There are a few files directed specifically at the Bass MuRF (105B), but most of what’s there is for the MuRF (105). Nevertheless, this information should assist you in your quest to get the most from the device.

Also, you might wnat to take a look at the MuRF User’s Manual, which has similar (but different) information on the MuRF. Get it here:
http://www.moogmusic.com/moogerfooger/?section=product&product_id=117

Every little bit helps.

  • Greg
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Just joined the KnobTweak group (am waiting for the mods to accept me)… Will check it out coz it sounds great. Thanks Greg!

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If anybody else wants to help too, though, I’d be more than grateful… :sunglasses:

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Are you using it with a bass guitar, synthesizer… what instrument(s) are we talking here?

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I think there are templates available on KT that will let you store your settings on sheets. You can use that patch sheet to document your association with other gear, what songs they are used on, etc.

I don’t own either Murf yet so I can’t help you out more than that.

Or you can always photograph your Murf with a digital camera or something instead of printing out patch sheets and writing everything down.


Eric

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It’s a bass… Specifically a Rickenbacker 4001.

Patch sheets sound like a good idea. :slight_smile: I usually just get an A4 page and write everything down. ._o

But I was talking more about actually storing the patches somewhere and switching between them. I guess that’s impossible on MuRFs, I mean, they don’t have any memory for storing patches…

So I was wondering if any accessory could be used in conjunction to make the MuRF switch patterns, like a stompbox. But I guess it’s still not possible?

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Pattern Step Adaptor

http://www.moogmusic.com/moogerfooger/?section=product&product_id=213&back_id=117

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So basically I can use that thing attached to the cable of a tap tempo FS-1 foot switch in order to switch between patterns 1, 2, 3, 4 etc (there are 11) with my foot?

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no,


you use it to eihter

tap the tempo in
or freeze time.. but advance the existing patterns every time you step on it or trigger it.

you can you your own rhythms etc.

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Sorry I didn’t understand this:

"or freeze time.. but advance the existing patterns every time you step on it or trigger it. "

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so if the pattern has 8 steps, then repeats normally it changes based on the internal clock…

fast..
1_2_3_4_5_6_7_8_1_2

etc

or slower 1__2__3__4__5__6__7__ etc.

the pattern step adapter removes the internal clock triggering.. and allows stages to be moved when you trigger it.

ie … 12_______3______4_5______678___1

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Can you freeze it and use it like a filter bank??? :open_mouth:
If this is possible then it is higher on my list!

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Yes, Pattern 1 has no animation.

Have fun!

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Now,this is revelation for me!
So we have 3 filters,LPF,NOTCH,and 8 freq. of BEND PASS?
Thanx allot for this info!

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Ah, all right Matt thanks for the explanation…

I suppose this means that I can, within a SAME pattern, “race” through it using this little tool, and change the tempo to whatever I like, or tap it in if I use the foot switch and tamp tempo feature…

Also as Vitja B just discovered, if you use it on pattern “1” (no animation) you mess around with filters instead? (I don’t exactly understand how, yet - further details would be appreciated)




But from what I understand, it does NOT do what I originally asked about, which is to be able to switch from pattern “1” to, for instance, “4”, without having to tweak the little pattern wheel myself… All it does is mess around IN and WITHIN a pattern but won’t let you get out of it and into other patterns, correct?

If so (if that’s correct), then is there any way to jump between patterns without having to tweak the knob myself? (looks like there isn’t?)

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That’s what it looks like to me as well. :confused:

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yep.. does not jump patterns.


but.. with a say MF101 lowpass filter.. with an envelope out..

run guitar —>101---->murf

run the envelope out of the 101 to your murf trigger in and then every note can trigger the next stage… :slight_smile:

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I have my bass going into the 105b then into the 101 with a trs cable from the env out to the lfo in. The 105b is being used as an overdrive with the lpf right up & everything else near the bottom except the 525 which is near the middle, the drive is 2/3 on & animation is set to 1a.
The 101 is set with the ammount near 0, cutoff at the line below 250, resonance is either set to 1 or 6 & the switches are smooth & 4pole. I have the ep2 into either the ammount or the cutoff in, this makes some amazing fuzzy dub to funky synth sounds.

I got a tap tempo switch but I never use it as it’s too hard to get it in time with the drummer. I do use the animation on a couple of songs tho.

G