[ALL] Editors compatibility with 3rd parties

Dear gang,

I have been finding some strange issues regarding the editors, some of which makes them unusable in some settings.

For instance, the Minitaur Editor works fine inside Komplete Kontrol when loaded as a plugin inside Live, but the same editor seems to reset the parameters of the synth upon recall if loaded as a plugin directly in Live, without Komplete Kontrol. The parameters do show up in the Push controller as well as within the Komplete Kontrol keyboard.

The Sub Phatty editor does show its parameters in the Push controller when loaded inside Komplete Kontrol, but these don’t show up if loaded directly inside Live, in this case the Push controller shows the message “No parameter mapped”

Regarding the Sub 37 Editor, no parameters show up in the Push controller and the plugin does not show up inside Komplete Kontrol, since the latter only has plugins registered as instruments in its database. This makes it cumersome to set it up in Live without Komplete Kontrol as well.

To sum it up:

  • [MTRE]
    Parameters show up in Push
    Parameters show up in Komplete Kontrol keyboard
    Recall does not work when loaded directly in a Live channel
    Recall works correctly when loaded inside a Komplete Kontrol instance loaded as a plugin inside Live


  • [SPHE]
    Parameters don’t show up in Push
    Parameters show up in Komplete Kontrol keyboard


  • [S37E]
    Parameters don’t show up in Push
    The plugin does not show up in Komplete Kontrol since it is not a virtual instrument but a plugin

Sorry for the incomplete list, I hope to work during the next days to complete it since I am doing it from my office where I only have the Yosemite OS and the Sub 37, the Windows computer and the other synths are at home.

Thanks for the detailed report,

While it would be mostly important to make sure the Editors work correctly as plugins and can be successfully automated in Ableton, I’ll have this checked locally and report on.