Has anyone tried using 2 MF104s with one in the insert path?
If my limited understanding doesnt fail me wouldnt this give you a similar effect to Frippertronics?
Thanks,
Lee
I don’t have 2 delays, but I do have this roland cube 30 bass amp that has delay and other effects.
I inserted the amp in the effects loop for processing and I set the 104 on a long delay time and the amp on a short one so it created a type of double delay throbbing sound. Its pretty neat.
The 104 is probably my favorite effect and since I bought it, I think everything that I do is running through that thing lol.
Eric
It is actually closer in sound to what the Edge does with stereo delays.
One very cool thing to do is to put a Looper (Boss Loop Station, Line 6 DL-4, etc.) in the loop of the 104. Then you get some really interesting effects, particularly if you tweak the delay time control while the loop is playing back.
Bryan
Well what I’m wanting to do is emulate the Fripp loop process and use it with my Lil Phatty and 107. Maybe throw in some theremin for taste as well. Any thoughts people? Amos you out there listening on this one?
For longer delay times your best bet is to use one of the modern loopers. Anything from the Akai Headrush, Boss Loop Station, or Line 6 DL-4 up through the Gibson/Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro, Electrix Repeater, or Lexicon JamMan. I’m not really current with what is on the market now, but I know some of the ones I mentioned are not. Most of my friends who are really into looping use the Echoplex Digital Pro.
Bryan
Is that what they refer to as a “Dub Remix”?
Kind of, but you can get a lot of the dub sounds just by tweaking the feedback and delay time knobs in real time. It is a fun way to mess with audio - I used it in the studio last week, actually.
Bryan
I have most of the loopers mentioned above. But they would accomodate more of a Soundscapes approach with one exception…
The Akai Headrush. It can act as a straight looper or a standard delay, but what makes it stand out is it’s Tape Echo mode. Used in conjunction with the High Frequency Damper control, it is the digital equivalent of running two reel-to-reel recorders to create the echoes (maximum about 6 seconds)
Since the outputs are four discrete channels, you’d need a mixer to insert it into an effects loop, but that would still be more effective and cheaper than two MF104’s.
THis is an interesting post.. got me thinking…
Theoritically,
depending on how you hook up your delay.. it will do different things…
If you hook 1 effects loop up to another effects loop, you can double the delay time possible… (and if you use control voltage, you can control each of them in synth) (or tripple if you have 3 and create a serial chain)
If you hook up one’s IN Out, through the other’s effects loop, you essentially will get two different delay times happening… this is the way I think was intended through this post.. (you would have more dry control of the 2nd one.)
Here, hear! The Akai Headrush is a great little effects device, and the individual outputs add tremendous flexibility. But you don’t need to use the individual outputs separately - you can use the Effect out jack alone and get all four Tape Echos (or the Digital Delays) from that one connection.