# Moog Beta Forum

**URL:** https://forum.moogmusic.com/c/the-moog-forum/moog-beta-forum/24.md

[Latest](https://forum.moogmusic.com/latest.md) · [Categories](https://forum.moogmusic.com/categories.md) · [Tags](https://forum.moogmusic.com/tags.md)

---

## [About the Moog Beta Forum category](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/about-the-moog-beta-forum-category/26)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@system](https://forum.moogmusic.com/u/system)\
**Replies:** 0

</div>

(Replace this first paragraph with a brief description of your new category. This guidance will appear in the category selection area, so try to keep it below 200 characters.) Use the following paragraphs for a longer d…

---

## [\[SIRE\] Sirin Editor 1.0.0 and Firmware 1.0.0 released!](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/sire-sirin-editor-1-0-0-and-firmware-1-0-0-released/20224)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@GilW](https://forum.moogmusic.com/u/GilW)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [January 25, 2019, 9:45pm UTC](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/sire-sirin-editor-1-0-0-and-firmware-1-0-0-released/20224 "2019-01-25T21:45:58Z")

</div>

Hello beta group! It’s been a while, and we’re releasing a new Sirin Editor and Firmware, available for download here: http://www.moogconnect.net/downloads/sirin/Sirin\_Editor\_v1.0.0.zip Package contains: Sirin Edito…

---

## [\[SPHE\] Sub Phatty Editor 2.0.0 and Firmware 2.2.0 approved!](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/sphe-sub-phatty-editor-2-0-0-and-firmware-2-2-0-approved/19730)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@GilW](https://forum.moogmusic.com/u/GilW)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [August 7, 2019, 3:52pm UTC](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/sphe-sub-phatty-editor-2-0-0-and-firmware-2-2-0-approved/19730 "2019-08-07T15:52:07Z")

</div>

Full all-in-one download package: http://www.moogconnect.net/downloads/subphatty/Sub%20Phatty%20Editor%20v2.0.0.zip Thanks all for your contribution to this release!

---

## [\[SSQE\] Subsequent 37 / CV Editors and Firmware approved!](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/ssqe-subsequent-37-cv-editors-and-firmware-approved/19723)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@GilW](https://forum.moogmusic.com/u/GilW)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [March 12, 2018, 5:21pm UTC](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/ssqe-subsequent-37-cv-editors-and-firmware-approved/19723 "2018-03-12T17:21:48Z")

</div>

Approved for release: Subsequent 37 CV Editor 1.0.0 (uses firmware 1.3.2) Subsequent 37 CV Firmware 1.3.2 Subsequent 37 Editor 1.0.0 (uses firmware 1.2.0) Subsequent 37 Editor v1.0.0 all-in-one package: http://www.mo…

---

## [\[S37E\] Sub 37 Editor (OSX) 1.0.1 approved for release!](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/s37e-sub-37-editor-osx-1-0-1-approved-for-release/19601)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@GilW](https://forum.moogmusic.com/u/GilW)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [January 13, 2018, 10:06am UTC](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/s37e-sub-37-editor-osx-1-0-1-approved-for-release/19601 "2018-01-13T10:06:05Z")

</div>

S37E OSX 1.0.1 is now approved: http://www.moogconnect.net/downloads/sub37/Sub\_37\_Editor\_v1\_0\_1.zip This version fixes known preset system issues in High Sierra. Everything else is without change. Thanks for your cont…

---

## [\[MTRE\] Minitaur Editor 3.2.1 approved for release!](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/mtre-minitaur-editor-3-2-1-approved-for-release/19589)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@GilW](https://forum.moogmusic.com/u/GilW)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [January 20, 2018, 4:30pm UTC](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/mtre-minitaur-editor-3-2-1-approved-for-release/19589 "2018-01-20T16:30:37Z")

</div>

MTRE OSX version v3.2.1 is now approved: http://moogconnect.net/downloads/minitaur/Minitaur\_Editor\_v3.2.1.zip This version fixes known preset system issues in High Sierra. Everything else is without change. Thanks for…

---

## [\[ALL\] New Windows 10 drivers v4.35.0 for MTR, SPHE, 37](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/all-new-windows-10-drivers-v4-35-0-for-mtr-sphe-37/19457)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@GilW](https://forum.moogmusic.com/u/GilW)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [November 12, 2017, 1:56am UTC](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/all-new-windows-10-drivers-v4-35-0-for-mtr-sphe-37/19457 "2017-11-12T01:56:24Z")

</div>

Hello beta group! We upgraded all Windows USB Midi drivers to follow up with the last changes in Windows 10, which caused the existing v3.30.0 driver to stop working properly in some systems. Any Minitaur, Sub Phatty, …

---

## [Guidelines to new forum posts](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/guidelines-to-new-forum-posts/17896)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@GilW](https://forum.moogmusic.com/u/GilW)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [May 11, 2016, 2:49pm UTC](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/guidelines-to-new-forum-posts/17896 "2016-05-11T14:49:36Z")

</div>

Hello beta group ! We will soon have new betas for Minitaur and Sub Phatty. In order to make it easier to navigate through future posts, please add to every new thread the following prefix: \[SSQ37\] - Subsequent 37 Fir…

---

## [\[SSQ37E\] Several controls cannot be automated in VST3](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/ssq37e-several-controls-cannot-be-automated-in-vst3/22910)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@user57](https://forum.moogmusic.com/u/user57)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [July 28, 2024, 11:01pm UTC](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/ssq37e-several-controls-cannot-be-automated-in-vst3/22910 "2024-07-28T23:01:21Z")

</div>

When using the Subsequent 37 Editor VST3 in Cubase, it is not possible to automate several parameters. The plugin sends the controller information to Cubase, but it does not react to incoming automation data. Examples o…

---

## [\[MTRE\] \[SIRE\] CC 103, 105, 106 for delay and Hold.](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/mtre-sire-cc-103-105-106-for-delay-and-hold/20712)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@schlam](https://forum.moogmusic.com/u/schlam)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [February 21, 2023, 12:20pm UTC](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/mtre-sire-cc-103-105-106-for-delay-and-hold/20712 "2023-02-21T12:20:35Z")

</div>

Hello, I know there’s a long time that the problem persists. I don’t own SIRIN but I guess that the problem is the same that for the Minitaur.. Please ! Could we expect a solution for the issue about CC 103, 105, 10…

---

## [Firmware beta testing for the One](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/firmware-beta-testing-for-the-one/21845)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@kendallhalbert](https://forum.moogmusic.com/u/kendallhalbert)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [January 9, 2022, 3:59pm UTC](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/firmware-beta-testing-for-the-one/21845 "2022-01-09T15:59:55Z")

</div>

If you are looking for firmware beta testers, I’m down for that. I have a 16 voice.

---

## [\[SIR\] Sirin Firmware 1.0.1rc2 is available to test](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/sir-sirin-firmware-1-0-1rc2-is-available-to-test/20261)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@GilW](https://forum.moogmusic.com/u/GilW)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [February 15, 2019, 3:12pm UTC](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/sir-sirin-firmware-1-0-1rc2-is-available-to-test/20261 "2019-02-15T15:12:49Z")

</div>

Hello beta group! Following is a small update for Sirin firmware, v1.0.1rc2. This version includes minor internal changes, so potential regression issues are what we’re looking to find. Please download, update your un…

---

## [\[MTE\] Editor show an save incorrect Category](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/mte-editor-show-an-save-incorrect-category/19996)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@artofnois](https://forum.moogmusic.com/u/artofnois)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [October 3, 2018, 7:10pm UTC](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/mte-editor-show-an-save-incorrect-category/19996 "2018-10-03T19:10:00Z")

</div>

The combo box of Category in Minitaur Editor get a list of categories that not matches real in synth. When saving a patch to synth, the editro select another category The list that show me have only 3 options: ALL, Key…

---

## [\[SSQ\] Possible bugs](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/ssq-possible-bugs/19946)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@bichuelo](https://forum.moogmusic.com/u/bichuelo)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [August 13, 2018, 2:46pm UTC](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/ssq-possible-bugs/19946 "2018-08-13T14:46:11Z")

</div>

Hi, I recently received a Subsequent 37 after I sold the Sub 37 we used in our showroom One thing I found out is that the Last Note Priority seems to be the only KB Priority mode that works. This was previously reporte…

---

## [ADD BPM VALUE](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/add-bpm-value/17605)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@AThousandDetails](https://forum.moogmusic.com/u/AThousandDetails)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [April 26, 2018, 8:21am UTC](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/add-bpm-value/17605 "2018-04-26T08:21:57Z")

</div>

Hey guys… I know final is coming next week… but this is something IMPORTANT for me and many users around here. Sure we can live without it… BUT it’s not the same. It’s an hassle and not all of us have the ear trained to…

---

## [Sub 37 Editor v1.0.1](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/sub-37-editor-v1-0-1/19749)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@djkey](https://forum.moogmusic.com/u/djkey)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [March 22, 2018, 4:03pm UTC](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/sub-37-editor-v1-0-1/19749 "2018-03-22T16:03:13Z")

</div>

In the new Sub 37 Editor v1.0.1 update pack there is no VST 3. Is that so wanted?

---

## [\[SPH\] Editor 2.0.0rc2 & Firmware 2.2.0rc2 release candidates](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/sph-editor-2-0-0rc2-firmware-2-2-0rc2-release-candidates/19706)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@GilW](https://forum.moogmusic.com/u/GilW)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [March 6, 2018, 9:05am UTC](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/sph-editor-2-0-0rc2-firmware-2-2-0rc2-release-candidates/19706 "2018-03-06T09:05:07Z")

</div>

Sub Phatty firmware release candidate v2.2.0rc2 is now available. This version fixes the VCA issue found by Bichuelo. Editor is without change. Download: All-In-One package: http://www.moogconnect.net/downloads/subph…

---

## [\[SSQ\] Subsequent 37 CV Firmware v1.3.2rc2 is available !](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/ssq-subsequent-37-cv-firmware-v1-3-2rc2-is-available/19704)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@GilW](https://forum.moogmusic.com/u/GilW)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [February 24, 2018, 11:26am UTC](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/ssq-subsequent-37-cv-firmware-v1-3-2rc2-is-available/19704 "2018-02-24T11:26:04Z")

</div>

Hello beta group! Following is a new release candidate for Subsequent 37 CV firmware, v1.3.2rc2. Fixes: “(no name)” may appear for all hardware presets once completing GET Note that this firmware is for the CV version…

---

## [\[SSQE\] Subsequent 37 & CV Editors 1.0.0rc2 are available!](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/ssqe-subsequent-37-cv-editors-1-0-0rc2-are-available/19699)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@GilW](https://forum.moogmusic.com/u/GilW)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [February 23, 2018, 2:24pm UTC](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/ssqe-subsequent-37-cv-editors-1-0-0rc2-are-available/19699 "2018-02-23T14:24:40Z")

</div>

Hello beta group! Following are two new release candidates: Subsequent 37 & 37 CV Editors v1.0.0rc2 Subsequent 37 CV Firmware v1.3.2rc2 (this is for CV version only!) Fixes: Editor crashes when loaded as FX in Pro…

---

## [\[SSQ\] Subsequent Editor 1.0.0rc1 available](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/ssq-subsequent-editor-1-0-0rc1-available/19695)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@GilW](https://forum.moogmusic.com/u/GilW)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [February 22, 2018, 5:25pm UTC](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/ssq-subsequent-editor-1-0-0rc1-available/19695 "2018-02-22T17:25:33Z")

</div>

Hello beta group! Subsequent 37 and 37 CV editors release candidate v1.0.0rc1 is ready to test. Fixes: Offset and Scale fields may not be in sync with their corresponding values on hardware Top preset name may not ma…

---

## [\[SPH\] Editor 2.0.0rc2 & Firmware 2.2.0rc1 release candidates](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/sph-editor-2-0-0rc2-firmware-2-2-0rc1-release-candidates/19690)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@GilW](https://forum.moogmusic.com/u/GilW)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [February 22, 2018, 3:18pm UTC](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/sph-editor-2-0-0rc2-firmware-2-2-0rc1-release-candidates/19690 "2018-02-22T15:18:59Z")

</div>

Sub Phatty firmware release candidate v2.2.0rc1 is now available. Note that the only change over v2.1.15, is the new version number. Please test this along with Editor v2.0.0rc2, and let us know of any critical issues th…

---

## [SSQ Editors 1.0.0b9 and CV Firmware 1.3.2rc1 ready to test!](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/ssq-editors-1-0-0b9-and-cv-firmware-1-3-2rc1-ready-to-test/19691)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@GilW](https://forum.moogmusic.com/u/GilW)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [February 20, 2018, 7:17pm UTC](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/ssq-editors-1-0-0b9-and-cv-firmware-1-3-2rc1-ready-to-test/19691 "2018-02-20T19:17:53Z")

</div>

Hello beta group! Following are new Editor and Firmware versions, ready to test: Subsequent 37 Editor v1.0.0b9 (Subsequent 37 still uses firmware v1.2.0, as does Sub 37) Subsequent 37 CV Editor v1.0.0b9, now uses a ne…

---

## [\[SPHE\] Editor 2.0.0rc2 and Firmware 2.1.15 are available !](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/sphe-editor-2-0-0rc2-and-firmware-2-1-15-are-available/19678)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@GilW](https://forum.moogmusic.com/u/GilW)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [February 16, 2018, 4:00pm UTC](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/sphe-editor-2-0-0rc2-and-firmware-2-1-15-are-available/19678 "2018-02-16T16:00:51Z")

</div>

Hello beta group! Sub Phatty Editor v2.0.0rc2 and Firmware v2.1.15 are now available. These two versions are release candidates. Please use and test them as much as possible and let us know on the forum of any issues t…

---

## [Subsequent 37 & CV Editors 1.0.0b8 are ready to test!](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/subsequent-37-cv-editors-1-0-0b8-are-ready-to-test/19671)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@GilW](https://forum.moogmusic.com/u/GilW)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [February 11, 2018, 11:59pm UTC](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/subsequent-37-cv-editors-1-0-0b8-are-ready-to-test/19671 "2018-02-11T23:59:33Z")

</div>

Hello beta group! Subsequent 37 and CV Editors v1.0.0b8 are ready to test. Fixing: Prevent dots from being used in preset names Share feature blocked by Apple’s new App Transport Security (ATS) More CV/Gate area impr…

---

## [\[SPH\] Sub Phatty firmware 2.1.13 is available !](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/sph-sub-phatty-firmware-2-1-13-is-available/19660)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@GilW](https://forum.moogmusic.com/u/GilW)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [February 10, 2018, 1:09am UTC](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/sph-sub-phatty-firmware-2-1-13-is-available/19660 "2018-02-10T01:09:32Z")

</div>

Hello beta group! Sub Phatty firmware beta v2.1.13 is now ready to test. This version fixes a few major issues: Preset Level is now separated from Master Volume, fixing: Preset level is overwritten by physical level …

---

## [Subsequent 37 & CV Editors 1.0.0b7 are ready to test!](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/subsequent-37-cv-editors-1-0-0b7-are-ready-to-test/19655)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@GilW](https://forum.moogmusic.com/u/GilW)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [February 6, 2018, 1:08pm UTC](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/subsequent-37-cv-editors-1-0-0b7-are-ready-to-test/19655 "2018-02-06T13:08:57Z")

</div>

Hello beta group! Subsequent 37 and CV Editors v1.0.0b7 are ready to test. Fixes: High Sierra presets mismatch between Editor and hardware CC Mapping 99-119 are missing from CV editor Offset/Scale range of values are…

---

## [\[SPHE\] Sub Phatty Editor RC 2.0.0rc1.1 is available !](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/sphe-sub-phatty-editor-rc-2-0-0rc1-1-is-available/19632)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@GilW](https://forum.moogmusic.com/u/GilW)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [January 25, 2018, 8:48pm UTC](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/sphe-sub-phatty-editor-rc-2-0-0rc1-1-is-available/19632 "2018-01-25T20:48:44Z")

</div>

Hello beta group! Sub Phatty Editor v2.0.0rc1.1 (OSX only) is now available. This is a recompilation of 2.0.0rc1 and comes to solve a problem with Share Presets found in 2.0.0rc1. Windows is without change. Download: …

---

## [\[SPHE\] Sub Phatty Editor 2.0.0b15 is ready to test!](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/sphe-sub-phatty-editor-2-0-0b15-is-ready-to-test/19631)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@GilW](https://forum.moogmusic.com/u/GilW)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [January 25, 2018, 4:04pm UTC](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/sphe-sub-phatty-editor-2-0-0b15-is-ready-to-test/19631 "2018-01-25T16:04:50Z")

</div>

Hello beta group! Sub Phatty Editor v2.0.0b15 is now available. Fixes: SPE-176 - Add owner’s manual to the installers SPE-273 - Preset field is not set to active preset when connecting SPH while Editor loaded SPE-29…

---

## [\[SPHE\] Sub Phatty Editor 2.0.0b14 is ready to test!](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/sphe-sub-phatty-editor-2-0-0b14-is-ready-to-test/19626)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@GilW](https://forum.moogmusic.com/u/GilW)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [January 22, 2018, 4:19pm UTC](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/sphe-sub-phatty-editor-2-0-0b14-is-ready-to-test/19626 "2018-01-22T16:19:07Z")

</div>

Hello beta group! Sub Phatty Editor v2.0.0b14 is now available. Fixes: SPE-296 - Saving preset to a new location using hardware, target preset name not updated on Editor SPE-295 - Default Juce GUI shows sometime on t…

---

## [Subsequent 37 & CV Editors 1.0.0b6 are ready to test!](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/subsequent-37-cv-editors-1-0-0b6-are-ready-to-test/19472)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@GilW](https://forum.moogmusic.com/u/GilW)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [January 20, 2018, 4:35pm UTC](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/subsequent-37-cv-editors-1-0-0b6-are-ready-to-test/19472 "2018-01-20T16:35:31Z")

</div>

Hello beta group! Please see Subsequent 37 and Subsequent 37 CV Editors v1.0.0b6. Fixes: Velocity/Modulation fields text font is too big CV Scale/Offset numeric text font should match the generic Editor font set “Sha…

[Next page](https://forum.moogmusic.com/c/the-moog-forum/moog-beta-forum/24.md?page=1)
