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Sampling the little phatty

Postby garagebandking41 » Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:36 pm

I'm looking into finding something like a MicroKorg for sampling, but since I love my LP, is there something good out there that I could sample different waveforms and change the filter/envelope. This way I could get a cheap polymoog and something a bit more portable?

I got the idea from someone here using software, but I'm looking into some physical hardware. Anyone out there use any things like this or am I scag for going digital? :?
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Re: Sampling the little phatty

Postby thealien666 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:13 am

Sampling a Moog, sort of defeats the purpose of getting one in the first place, in my humble opinion.
But feel free to do as you please. :D
It's only that you could have saved a lot of money by using already made samples, and played them on any sampler if you don't mind repetitive and lifeless digital samples.

BTW, a MicroKorg is not a sampler, nor can it play back any loaded samples. You can input an external sound source and pass it thru its filter, or use it for the Vocoder, but that's it.
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Re: Sampling the little phatty

Postby garagebandking41 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:51 am

I completely agree. I'm all about analog. but I meant the Korg Microsampler. What started this is that I need a sampler for another project, but i would love to sample the LP just for fun.
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Re: Sampling the little phatty

Postby thealien666 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:50 am

It's all right to try new things for fun sometimes, nothing wrong with that! :D
And I must admit to having sampled my Moog MG-1 with my Ensoniq EPS16, over 20 years ago, when everything digital was suposedly "better"... :roll:

Come to think of it, maybe you could save a ton of money, by getting a "vintage" 16 bit sampler (Ensoniq, Akai, Emu) I regularly see them sell for between $50 and $200 on different online sites...

And if the samples are carefully recorded and looped with long enough samples, sometimes you can almost get away with it and simulate a polyphonic Moog...if it's drowned and mixed with other instruments. :mrgreen:
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Re: Sampling the little phatty

Postby Assar » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:12 am

If you want to go sw, "Kontakt" from Native Instruments is a fantastic sample player.
You can record samples with Audacity (or similar) and import the files to Kontakt.
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Re: Sampling the little phatty

Postby Thisismyname » Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:42 am

I sampled one of the organ presets from my LP into Native Instruments Battery, which is a functional if basic sampler. It means I can have a polyphonic organ sound, based on LP waveform. Sounds brilliant (to my ears at least). I also sampled a few sounds from my old Roland SH09, which means I can play it using midi (sort of). I love sampling - it's a dieing art from. I do agree though, that for most applications it is just as easy to play it (and more fun!).
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Re: Sampling the little phatty

Postby newtoslim » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:57 am

garagebandking41 wrote:I'm looking into finding something like a MicroKorg for sampling, but since I love my LP, is there something good out there that I could sample different waveforms and change the filter/envelope. This way I could get a cheap polymoog and something a bit more portable?

I got the idea from someone here using software, but I'm looking into some physical hardware. Anyone out there use any things like this or am I scag for going digital? :?


IMVHO, forget about it.

Sampling a analog waveform is useless, sonic-wise.

If you have a space/weight emergency, get a decent VA for travels and rehearsal, stick to the moog for studio and big gigs.

You will find plenty of 1 or 2 rack unit VAs, and even one or two decent real analogue in 1 rack unit (try preset 694 [if I am not mistaken] of the matrix1000: it's a 200 bucks minimoog ready for henry's wives or whatever),

and if you are looking for a keyboard, try the bassstation, or there are VAs with a 3 or 4 octave keyboard are available from 300 bucks up.

but at that point: why not the LP itself? where's the problem with it?
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Re: Sampling the little phatty

Postby xombiexplox » Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:41 am

I sample my Slim and my Little Phatty into an Akai MPC1000. I like having all the pads right in front of me and it's neat using the sequencer for both of them when I don't feel like having to be tied to a COM-PU-TOR
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Re: Sampling the little phatty

Postby thealien666 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:46 pm

Just a small aside xombiexplox, is this you also ?

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If so, this is a much better avatar picture of you, if you don't mind my saying !
But I understand also that maybe you didn't want to get all the Moog nerds on here too distracted from their toys ! :lol:
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Re: Sampling the little phatty

Postby David Smyth » Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:58 pm

newtoslim wrote:IMVHO, forget about it.

Sampling a analog waveform is useless, sonic-wise.


I don't know what you're doing wrong, I do it all the time and it sounds great!

I sample/loop my Little Phatty with a Korg KP3 Kaoss Pad and it sounds damn good (dispite being digital). I don't think you can claim it's useless because it's not pure analog - even if the quailty is slightly less than the pure output of the analog synth, I find it's completely adequate for overdubbing multiple synth layers live etc. just like recording an analog synth in a digital software program can sound good too.

To the OP:

If you're considering the Korg KP3 Kaoss Pad for sampling, one thing to think about is how to connect your mono synth 1/4" jack output to the stereo RCA inputs on the back of the KP3, which is pretty annoying. There is a mic 1/4" jack input on the front of the KP3, but I find it introduces unwanted noise at high gains (with instruments anyway). Another thing is that it is limited to sampling a length of 4 Bars total for each sample in the time signature of 4/4 and it has the limitation of only 4 sample pads. I'd say a proper sampler (like the MPC series) would be the best for purely sampling, but I enjoy using the KP3 for effects and it's pretty cool how it has a built in sampling function (even if it's somewhat limited).

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Re: Sampling the little phatty

Postby Sir Nose » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:35 pm

Pads and Sequencer: MPC 1000 with JJOS
Sample/multisample spread over keys with envelopes and filters: Ensoniq ASR-10
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Re: Sampling the little phatty

Postby xombiexplox » Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:56 pm

thealien666 wrote:Just a small aside xombiexplox, is this you also ?
If so, this is a much better avatar picture of you, if you don't mind my saying !
But I understand also that maybe you didn't want to get all the Moog nerds on here too distracted from their toys ! :lol:
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Re: Sampling the little phatty

Postby thealien666 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:19 am

xombiexplox wrote:
thealien666 wrote:Just a small aside xombiexplox, is this you also ?
If so, this is a much better avatar picture of you, if you don't mind my saying !
But I understand also that maybe you didn't want to get all the Moog nerds on here too distracted from their toys ! :lol:
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Sorry but, this other picture of you is what you use as avatar on DJ Tech Tools forum. And you're listed as Tech Wizard there. So, no dirty laundry airing intended on my part... Unless you were joking about that ?

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Besides, it's a flattering picture, don't u think? :D
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Re: Sampling the little phatty

Postby Voltor07 » Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:07 pm

thealien666 wrote:Sorry but, this other picture of you is what you use as avatar on DJ Tech Tools forum. And you're listed as Tech Wizard there. So, no dirty laundry airing intended on my part... Unless you were joking about that ?

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Besides, it's a flattering picture, don't u think? :D


I like the avatar she has here...of course, I'm a bit...off, I guess is a good way to describe me. One card short of a full deck, perhaps? Or even one can short of a six pack. :mrgreen:
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Re: Sampling the little phatty

Postby thealien666 » Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:31 pm

Actually both pictures of her are perfectly fine. One has an inquisitive pose, the other is more laid back.

This is a "come as you are" kind of place, anyway. :D
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