Clicky Moog Filter (samples inside)

subtle · Post by **subtle** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:12 pm

Can anyone tell me if there is something wrong with my Moog that makes those clicky noises ?

I tried using the Virus B filter on the same sound and i didnt get a single click.

Here are samples:

MOOG FILTER
www.subtleinc.net/moogfilter.mp3
www.subtleinc.net/moogfilter2.mp3
www.subtleinc.net/moogfilter3.mp3

VIRUS B FILTER

www.subtleinc.net/virusfilter.mp3
www.subtleinc.net/virusfilter2.mp3
www.subtleinc.net/virusfilter3.mp3

Embryo · Post by **Embryo** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:05 am

Well, mine also does it, and i think it's perfectly normal.
Your VCF attack must be at 0, and your decay fairly low, it's the filter envelope that's clicking.
If you don't like it you can either raise your VCF decay, or raise your VCA attack, and I guess it would solve the problem.

Extraborg · Post by **Extraborg** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:24 am

I agree with Embryo. It's just the filter attack clicking away. My other analog synth does this too (a Roland SH-09). It think it's fairly normal. Some VAs actually have a function to add the click to bass patches to get that 'authentic analog feel' - Zebra 2 for instance (and the Virus come to think of it, although they call it 'punch' or something.

kingfriday · Post by **kingfriday** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:33 pm

I paid good money for that click!

DeFrag · Post by **DeFrag** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:47 am

Sounds like a zero-point transient on the waveform.
Ick

Amos · Post by **Amos** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:35 pm

Embryo wrote:If you don't like it you can either raise your VCF decay, or raise your VCA attack, and I guess it would solve the problem.

This. The beauty of really fast analogue envelopes is that you can choose to have this click, or not, depending on your settings. If you carefully increase the volume envelope attack or filter invelope decay (perhaps using Precision Mode on the LP for precise adjustments), at slightly longer time settings you will then reach the minimum possible envelope times on these clickless VA synths.

The LP (and SH-09 and other analogues) simply have faster minimum envelope times than most any VA. A sound level change that approaches instantaneous will increasingly sound like a click or pop.