mixpan wrote:@ jgo
I think that what you're saying is: work with the editor outside the DAW and control sub phatty only with midi in and out within the DAW (no editor needed)- which actually defeats the purpose of a VSTi. I hope Moog is making some progress on the issue, because the problem with DAW integration in Windows remains...
I'm sorry, that's not what I'm saying. I always use the vst version. The subphatty has two midi inputs, the usb and the regular old midi. In your DAW's own settings, disable its recognition of the USB interface. Enable that one in the subphatty's vst editor. You will then have to control all sequencing in your DAW via the 5 pin on a midi track out to that interface on a midi track in your project. Moog's subphatty editor will load up with your DAW project and send the correct patch to the synth. Don't think of it as a "VSTi", think of it as a patch programmer and automatic patch loader for you project.
In some DAWs you may have to load the editor as an effect for whatever reason.
What I was saying about the other juno and esq1 editors (as vsts) was that I had to do pretty much the same thing BUT those synths only have one midi in so I have to use a hardware or software merger outside the DAW, which is a bit of a pain and something you have to remember to keep turned on or set up each time. The subs spiffy dual midi in thing fixes that problem for me.
Maybe it seems like a workaround because you will have to blow both a midi out and a usb port, but so far the moog editor has been very convenient for me considering some of the pains I have had with connecting hardware to computers since things went all DAW vs. computer sequencer style.
It may be windows' fault, I don't know, but I just know that letting some DAWS see a midi interface seems to cause conflicts and/or sysex and stuff to get blocked. I also know that the problem is not exactly unique moog's editor. Anyway, I'm not trying to lay blame or make excuses, just trying (poorly) to explain how I got it to work nicely for me (all inside of a DAW project) and maybe someone else can benefit.