Trying to play Voyager with drum pads...

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Trying to play Voyager with drum pads...

Post by MBlom » Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:55 am

...but it´s working quite poorly. The Voyager reacts in kind of a random way. I have to hit really hard and still it triggers just once in a while. I´m using an Alesis Control Pad which works just fine with a Nord Drum and I tried it with my Roland JX8P. No problems at all. Are there some settings I need to make to make the Voyager getting trigged properly?

My overall impression is that there´s much to ask for MIDI-wise with the Voyager. A while ago I had troble with turning some MIDI-notes of so my MonoMachine (I think) could control notes but not some random value when I was tweaking some parameter that wasn´t at all related. No, it was the other way around! I wanted the Voyager to play the MonoMachine and have the two layered, but when I adjusted the filter or something on the Voyager, there was something getting tweaked on the MonoMachine as well. I then downloaded another version of the software for the Voyager to be able to design what MIDI to send. Could that be the issue in this case?

Here´s the thead I started about that issue:
http://forum.moogmusic.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=22215

To be honest I really hate MIDI issues because I can´t get my head around them. I really don´t grasp how it works and what parameters and possibilities there are and it really frustrates me.
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Re: Trying to play Voyager with drum pads...

Post by MBlom » Sun Aug 30, 2015 2:06 pm

Got to it again today. I can adjust the Voyager so the notes sound as I want them but only about four of five hits triggers a note. The Voyagers MIDI In lamp lights up all the time though.

Tried tweaking the Voyagers MIDI settings. Turned off almost all MIDI CC in. No difference.
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Re: Trying to play Voyager with drum pads...

Post by _DemonDan_ » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:36 pm

MBlom wrote:I have to hit really hard and still it triggers just once in a while.
Hi MBlom,

This is just a shot int he dark, but I'm wondering if the Gate Times from the Alesis drum pads are extremely short.

By that I mean the length of time from a pad's MIDI Note On to its MIDI Note Off. With keyboards, we typically hold the key a lot longer than a drum pad's default Gate Time.

Quite often, a drum pad's Gate Time is the absolute shortest amount of time allowed by MIDI.

This could be the cause of a Voyager patch not having enough time to actually make a sound.

Give this a try:
See if you can edit one of the pads to have a longer Gate Time (or Note On Time, Duration, etc.)

If you start hearing the Voyager, you'll know how to fix it.

There may even be a Global setting in the drum pads to lengthen all the pads' Gate Times at once.
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Re: Trying to play Voyager with drum pads...

Post by MC » Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:37 pm

The Memorymoog has a feature called unconditional contour, meaning the EG would complete its full ADSR contour regardless of when the key was released.

That would be the ideal solution, but I do not see any such option in the Voyager. You may have to adjust the gate time in your drum controller.
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